Episode 030: “…And Living Without Faith” With David Young
Show Notes
Intro music: Ventura Tyler Bates
Featured music: Why Does The Sun Shine They Might Be Giants
Hi Pilgrims,
David Young shares how his evidence based skeptical worldview shapes his life as well as discussing where there are some bridges of commonality with the Christian faith shared by Steve & Tammy.
I continue our delightful talk with David Young. David is a sceptic, a materialist, an atheist, and well, also my friend. In the first part of our talk David shared his very heartfelt story of being diagnosed with the degenerative illness ALS or “Lou gehrig’s disease”. In today’s podcast though david shares with us how he developed a sceptic’s mind and outlook on the world around him. And how that worldview has shaped him for the better.
Even in the cab ride home after our interview with David, Tammy was still processing what David had shared saying she wished she had known someone like David when she was growing up. At one point she said, “Steve, I was never taught to question. To examine evidence…I was told the Bible says it and that settles it.
And here’s the thing…David isn’t out to undercut my faith. If anything friends like David and others like him in my life who actually help renew my faith in God and humanity. He probably wouldn’t put it in those terms but what I look for in people I surround myself with are the ones producing the fruit in their lives Jesus talks about… love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-
control.”
When I was younger I would have insisted that only a Christian could produce those attributes in a meaningful way….why, because that was what I was taught. But now, I realise those fruit can be manifest in many folk outside my faith tradition. Jesus didn’t say there was a regular kindness and a super Christian kindness, he just encouraged the crowds following him to be kind.
David is an atheist…and he’s kind…and I know you’re going to love what he has to say on today’s show.
Peace,
Steve
Podcast Index:
7:20 – How David became a skeptic
22:12 – Skeptics in the Pub
27:13 – Effects of Tribalism
35:11 – Morality & Ethics for a skeptic
41:00 – Bible & Morality
46:25 – Are we wired for Belief or Unbelief?
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Thank you Steve. I am so glad I listened to this episode after last night. Trying to stay away from news! Favorite at 52:40-end “The source of your morality shouldn’t be as important as your conviction to it….” Wow! And the way you presented the “great moral teacher” – “Son of God” – “don’t tell anyone” – “the new litmus test” – Brilliant, and as your guest said “that’s a beautiful example”. David Young sounds like a remarkable person.