Episode 110: Reaching for the Bigger Vision with Vernon Pitout
Hi Pilgrim,
Vernon Pitout is an entrepreneur and business coach who has been a friend of Steve & Tammy for many years. On today’s episode they reminisce on their spiritual journeys, discuss the pros and cons of leaders with a vision, and explore some of the challenges the church faces in the 21st century.

Vernon Pitout
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Steve & Tammy
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Episode Index:
1:30- (Intro) Steve & Tammy reminisce over the church they started 25 years ago as well as how to deal with the crazy of a polarised world.
21:24- Conversation with Vernon begins
24:48- Doing Good in Church but Questions Arise
35:38- Thoughts on Worship
43:16- God deals with Everyone Individually
50:53- Understanding real Freedom
1:04:04- The Pros and Cons of Visionary Leadership